June 23, 2010 - 11:14 AM

The Ick Factor...


The reaction over a reported quote from my most recent interview with the New Yorker has gained a lot of attention on the blogs and Internet.

Let me set the record straight.

My exact quote was this:

"I do believe that God created male and female and intended for marriage to be the relationship of the two opposite sexes. Male and female are biologically compatible to have a relationship. We can get into the 'ick factor,' but the fact is two men in a relationship, two women in a relationship, biologically, that doesn't work the same."

Never once did I say 'icky', as many blogs and less than credible news organizations have reported.

My use of the phrase 'ick factor' was as the established notion from within the Gay, Lesbian, Bi-sexual, Transgender (GLBT) community. It was not an indication of personal aversion, but rather a reference to an established phrase used mostly from same-sex marriage advocates and militants - not one I created.

Former colleague of then Professor Obama from the University of Chicago's Law School, Dr. Martha Nussbaum, has often made reference to the 'ick factor' in her professional writings and is credited with applying the phrase to the GLBT community.

This phrase is not new. This phrase is not mine.

More over, the phrase 'ick factor' was widely used as early as the late 1990's and was just the subject of an entire article written on April 12 of this year - by Joseph Erbentraut - and he even put 'Ick Factor' in the title.

I stand by my statement, and the misrepresentations of those who seek to dishonestly distort my views expose their duplicity and hypocrisy.

One of two things is going on here -

1. Either . . . many of these groups are feigning "offense" so they
can raise money to attack me and damage the conservative candidates I support.

2. Or . . . many of these groups didn't do any research on the
term's origin and usage just chose to attack without the facts.

Regardless - both of the motivations for the attacks on me are deplorable and indefensible.

We must send a strong signal today. Please make a donation of $10 or more today and my leadership committee Huck PAC will invest every dollar in the campaigns of strong advocates for traditional marriage.
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  • Los Angeles, Mike

    07/05/2010 08:16 AM

    Re: Log Cabin Republicans

    Sylwester, Steven
    06/25/2010 03:31 AM

    Interesting ideas, Steve. It must be very hard to see your party get taken over by far-left causes. Can you believe the Dr. Nussbaum mentioned above called Mike childish, morally deficient, and misinformed. You attempt to have a dialogue even with some of the far-left academics and they literally cannot understand what you are saying.

    With your sensitivities, my recommendation to you would be to really seek consultation with the Log Cabin Republicans to see if there are any in this group who really sincerely would work with Governor Huckabee and someone like Governor Mitch Daniels of Indiana to keep the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy in place in the military for socially and physically conservative reasons; oppose abortion, oppose same-sex marriage, and subsequently, bring to light the danger of polygamous marriage which if legalized by certain far-right groups riding off the backs of the far-left groups who you write about taking over the Democrat Party could harm more than just gay people trying to mind their own business and to protect their lives, liberty and property.

    Steve, if you find such people in the Log Cabin Republican group and other groups that people usually do not associate with socially and fiscally conservative,then transfer your membership to the Republican Party and help renew it with Governor Huckabee's suggestions.

    Dr. Nussbaum's theory would be thrown out the window by proving that there are gay people who oppose unfettered hypersexual and hyperphysical people because they are hyperextreme. What will Dr. Nussbaum do? Call such people childish, morally deficient, insecure?

  • Cagney, Mary

    07/01/2010 09:47 PM

    So, I am just wondering - do you only post comments of people who fully support your beliefs? Not that I don't - just thought I would ask.

  • September Dawn

    06/27/2010 09:48 PM

    Governor,
    Your comments to Chris Wallace today were right on. Thanks for explaining to the wider audience and thank you for saying that it was not number one on your list. Not sure that was the exact comment. But that is what some of us are saying. Stand up when asked. But kitchen table issues should be in the forefront along with national security.
    We agree with you, but let God handle the morals until you get the Bully pulpit. Wise as serpents, Gentle as lambs. Huckabee/Petreaus 2012! And then the Fairtax!

  • mxnwilson

    06/27/2010 07:17 PM

    BDS--
    6/27/2010 5:07 PM

    You took the words right out of my mouth, only I'm sure you expressed them better than I ever could--so thank you!!

  • BDS

    06/27/2010 05:07 PM

    RE: 06/26/2010 01:04 PM

    Thank you for qualifying "social conservative" with the modifier "educated." What a gift you are to us ordinary social conservative dullards!

    Regarding marriage, all Americans do already have full civil rights: any man may marry a woman, and any woman may marry a man. As far as rights specific to marriage, in California virtually every right afforded to married couples has been afforded to same-sex couples, i.e. your "Legal Co-Equal" plan has been implemented here already. As proven by their ongoing and vicious assaults on Prop 8, "legal co-equal" has absolutely failed to placate the homosexual lobby, for they will not be satisfied until they are "married." To insist that full civil rights are being denied unless anyone may "marry" any person he chooses is nothing less than a veiled attempt to insist upon a redefinition of marriage.

    Anyone who would insist thusly or encourage Gov. Huckabee to hide his pro-Life beliefs under a bushel for political expediency...well, that person is not really a social conservative.

  • Dr. David

    06/26/2010 01:04 PM

    Sylwester, Steven 06/25/2010 03:31 AM. I am an educated social conservative who believes that marriage should retain its traditional meaning, but also that all Americans should be entitled to full civil rights, regardless of sexual preference. I believe that your proposal for a "legal co-equal" makes a clear distinction between the sacred and legal aspects of committed relationships, and I hope that Governor Huckabee will have a look at it.

  • Teubert, Donna

    06/26/2010 11:43 AM

    I recently read a poem that fits pretty well with Mike Huckabee's stand on the moral issues affecting the economy. It also reminds me of what I often thought could be Mom's favorite verse since she quoted it so often. "For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. - 2 Thessalonians 3:10

    Here is the first part of the poem:

    "Father, must I work to eat?"
    "Oh, no! My lucky Son!
    We’re living now on Easy Street,
    On dough from Washington!

    Read more of "Father, Must I Work to Eat?"

  • Sylwester, Steven

    06/25/2010 03:31 AM

    I am a 56-year-old life-long registered Democrat who would have voted for Mike Huckabee for President during the last election if he had been the Republican nominee. And I will certainly vote for Huckabee for President during the next election if he is a nominee, which I hope turns out to be the case.

    I have been teetering on changing my political registration to Republican for a long while now because of the many gay rights issues that are now being loudly championed by Far Left Democrats, especially the same-sex marriage issue. I am a religious Bible-believing Christian, and I absolutely value the words of Holy Scripture. Both the intent of "marriage" and the term "marriage" were defined by God thousands of years ago in Divinely-inspired Scripture, and those definitions are not available for human redefinition now or ever.

    However, there are wrongs in American society today that can and should be righted, and some of those wrongs do impact our fellow citizens who choose to be homosexual in their intimate relationships. God gave human beings free will and choice as a Divine gift in the Garden of Eden, and that gift was for all time, including now. There are of course consequences to the choices we make, but the Divine gift to make choices — even the wrong choices — remains for you and for me and for everyone else.

    Jesus said in his Sermon on the Mount, "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." (Matthew 5:48 NIV) That is a difficult challenge, but it is our calling to at least try.

    My proposal calls for establishing a "Legal Co-Equal" status for all adult Americans. If the Republicans publicly embraced my proposal first, I think the Democrats would go into a dramatic tailspin as a result. Furthermore, I think the public debate regarding same-sex marriage would get turned on its head, because my proposal creates a very viable alternative that equally blesses all adult Americans without exception. It is absolutely fair, and it benefits everyone. It is the very stuff of God's grace — being perfect like our heavenly Father is perfect — and who can be opposed to that?

    I describe my proposal in detail at the following blog link:
    http://steven-a-sylwester.blogspot.com/2009/11/legal-co-equal-solution-for-everyone.html

    I have recently been successful in making my proposal known through The New York Times at:
    http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/opinion/13rich.html?permid=3#comment3

    Please pass the word. And please support the political wisdom of encouraging the Republican Party to be first to champion my "Legal Co-Equal" proposal.

    The Republican Party should also endorse the following other proposals of mine, too:
    http://supreme-court-gender-equality-pac.blogspot.com/
    http://steven-a-sylwester.blogspot.com/2009/11/oregon-national-laboratory-proposal.html
    http://steven-a-sylwester.blogspot.com/2009/10/building-code-revision-proposal-photo.html
    http://nasa-academy-of-the-physical-sciences.blogspot.com/

    The Republican Party has a golden opportunity to reinvent itself now. I think my ideas are conservative and wise. Certainly, a whole lot of moderate-to-conservative Democrats like me would jump to the Republican Party in a heartbeat if the Republicans were the first to embrace some forward-looking proposals for very needed change.

    Blessings on Mike Huckabee!

    Steven A. Sylwester

  • Donaldson, Linda

    06/24/2010 11:28 PM

    Thank you for standing your ground!

  • Captain Obvious

    06/24/2010 12:50 PM

    A salesman for our local newspaper has his stand set up outside WalMart today--when I told him we just plain don't like the paper (without mentioning why, mind you), he immediately countered with "we are much more moderate than we were in the past--why you'll even find Charles Krauthammer (I hope the gentleman will forgive me if his name is misspelled) and Michelle Malkin's columns in rotation on our op-ed page."

    Big Whoop, guys. After what the MSM has done to us in 2008 and beyond, you expect us to bring you in all meekness the few hard-earned dollars remaining to us to pay for your stuff? Not likely. If I CRAVE print media, I'll read the WSJ at the public library. And by the way, I'm not too fond of the New Yorker, either. Their article was full of jabs at the Governor (and underlying contempt for folks like us).

    Knowing what James says about the anger of man, I'm going to let mine cool for a minute and be sure I want to submit this.

    Yep, I do.

  • Teubert, Donna

    06/24/2010 11:17 AM

    Would Americans understand more if they realized how serious it is? Would they care if they realized someone's personal lifestyle choices affect all taxpayers?
    "The HIV/AIDS Epidemic in the United States"

    The U.S. Government Response
    In FY 2009, U.S. federal funding to combat HIV totaled $24.8 billion. Of this, 50% is for care, 11% for research, 10% for cash and housing assistance, 4% for prevention, and 25% for the international epidemic.
    • Key programs that provide health insurance coverage, care, and support to people with HIV in the U.S. include medicaid, Medicare, the Ryan White Program, and HOPWA, the Housing Opportunities for Persons with HIV/AIDS Program. Social Security’s income programs for those who are disabled (SSI and SSDI) are also important sources of support.
    • A variety of federally and state-supported prevention services are provided by state and local health departments and community organizations. The CDC recently updated the nation’s HIV Prevention Strategic Plan, which calls for reducing new HIV infections in the U.S. by 5% per year, or at least by 10% through 2010, focusing particularly on eliminating racial and ethnic disparities.20

    “Gay and bisexual men — referred to in CDC surveillance systems as men who have sex with men (MSM)1 — of all races continue to be the risk group most severely affected by HIV. Additionally, this is the only risk group in the U.S. in which the annual number of new HIV infections is increasing.”
    “MSM is the only risk group in the U.S. in which new HIV infections are increasing. While new infections have declined among both heterosexuals and injection drug users, the annual number of new HIV infections among MSM has been steadily increasing since the early 1990s.”
    [url]http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf[/url/

    “Every 9½ minutes (on average), someone in the United States is infected with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.”
    http://www.nineandahalfminutes.org/get-the-facts.php

    Mike Huckabee is right. Morality Affects Our Economy


  • Patriot 4America

    06/24/2010 03:12 AM

    RE:

    fowler, beverly
    06/23/2010 12:06 PM

    Actually, since you had enough courage to add the "s" to the beginning of "ick"...I'll add the "y" to the end of it with "pride". Peter

  • Captain Obvious

    06/24/2010 01:46 AM

    I read the article--at least part of it--online, and the quote attributed to Governor Huckabee was not the first time I've seen the "ick factor" phrase used in that context.

    HuckPAC is an oasis in the internet sea where all too often feigned offense and outspoken ignorance rule. Governor Huckabee, I think your opponents are simply terrified.

  • Layfield, Honey

    06/24/2010 12:53 AM

    Governor Huckabee all I have to say is "HooRah"!!! It's about time someone has the courage to stand on the truth.

  • bryan baskin

    06/23/2010 06:40 PM

    If a person watches enough Jerry Springer or other similar "entertainment" shows, I am sure that a lot of ick factors in that person's life will no longer be there. The critical question, though, is: is that a good thing?

    The embrace of the gay rights movement (or sexual selfishness movement, as I prefer to call it) is a mark not of a more sensitive culture but a desensitized, morally coarse culture. Governor, stand firm and make no apologies. If this movement would treat your friend Rick Warren like Fred Phelps, as they did at the Obama inauguration, they will not listen anyway

  • 2Kings22-23

    06/23/2010 05:18 PM

    You shouldn't worry about these blogs so much. I'm on the political sites all the time and look for you specificaly and if I haven't heard about it then nobody of consequence has. Bringing attention to these liberal bloggers only validates them, increases their readership, and may make you look petty and/or insecure. Though I fully understand your indignation, sometimes its more appropriate just to turn the other cheek.

    On the otherhand,one you may want to respond to or apolize for it the Palin/Cocain comment. You're right, it's on youtube, and this one could hurt.

  • Teubert, Donna

    06/23/2010 03:59 PM

    Gov. Huckabee,
    Thank you for staying in the fight for American values voters. While others are putting moral issues on the back burner; you are keeping the flame hot.

    Thank you for only endorsing candidates that hold the values important to those of us on the religious right. Many of us got into politics to preserve moral values - like you did.

    My favorite definition for "conservative" is in the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary.

    CONSERVATIVE, a. Preservative; having power to preserve in a safe or entire state, or from loss, waste or injury.

    That definition reminds me of the boy scouts rule of leaving a place better than they found it. It also reminds me of the old saying, "A stitch in time saves nine."

    Don't give up the fight! Stay strong! We need you! Our country depends on it.

  • Bouchard, Ann

    06/23/2010 03:15 PM

    Taking a stand publicly against the life style of gay and lesbian is very noble and courageous and I appreciate this. Thank you. I am for relationships between opposite sexes in marriage as you say in this post. There is an aspect about these types of life styles that needs to be said, although. I was talking to a person who is a psychiatric counselor and he told me that because of past lives lived which a person goes through, and these past lives can be lived as a male or a female, this is where the confusion stems from for gay or lesbian people. They have not reconciled fully the sex there are living in the present, but revert back to a past life sensation of being male or female again. I hope I have been clear enough explaining this. It's difficult to speak about.

  • Denman, Sandra

    06/23/2010 02:21 PM

    view the border photo's what was found in AZ from Mexico,
    http://www.standbyliberty.com

  • Denman, Sandra

    06/23/2010 02:17 PM

    Please check this site and view the pictures taken in AZ, weapons arsenals, secure the border, please, this is war on the border,
    stop Obama's polital movement into socialism/marxism, stop Obama's campaigning, thank you

  • mxnwilson

    06/23/2010 01:42 PM

    My experience in supporting local candidates in Georgia's primaries has taught me all about personal attacks from opposition. The main lesson I learned is that if an opponent is more focused on mud slinging than the issues, they will find a way to distort the truth if they can't find any mud to throw.

    So, I don't pay a lot of attention to personal attacks even if it is about a candidate I do not support as those kind of attacks can be so easily exaggerated.

    Thank you, Gov. Huckabee for remaining true to your convictions no matter how much advice you might receive from those who would want you to conform to a moderate position on these issues.

  • Ballew, Amy

    06/23/2010 01:21 PM

    I have no problem with your wording, I would have had no problem if you had used the word "iky". The human bodies weren't designed to be used in this way.

  • Collorafi, Julie

    06/23/2010 12:39 PM

    Thank you for having the courage to speak honestly about the moral scourge of homosexuality. I don't know of any other political leader who is brave enough to give his/her views on this subject, and we all know there is plenty of "ick" in this subject.

  • fowler, beverly

    06/23/2010 12:06 PM

    Add an "s" to the "ick" and you will find that that is the way most people do feel about homosexuality and homosexual relationships. Sin is sin and homosexual reltionships are sin and those involved in sin do not like to be corrected by people and or God, but that still does not make homosexuality right. We are in the horrible condition we are in as a nation because of "SIN" and we won't get out of it until we repent. If we don't have those who will stand up and say what God says is right and call sin what it is; then we will cease to exist as a nation. This is the sad reality. Thanks for standing your ground Governor Huckabee.

  • Valentine, Linda

    06/23/2010 11:53 AM

    Thanks for stting the rcord straight.I will be voting for you for President and am happy you will be running again. Love you Fox too. Your doing a great job!!!

  • Walker, Judy

    06/23/2010 11:33 AM

    Thanks, it's always good to get the story straight from "the horse's mouth" so to speak.